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10/10/2020

rod serling

1 of the great things about youtube is being able to find interviews that otherwise wouldn't be available. this is mike wallace interviewing rod serling.

that's an interesting interview.

rod serling? from 'wikipedia:'

Rodman Edward Serling (Rod Serling) (December 25, 1924 – June 28, 1975) was an American screenwriter, playwright, television producer, and narrator known for his live television dramas of the 1950s and his anthology television series, The Twilight Zone. Serling was active in politics, both on and off the screen, and helped form television industry standards. He was known as the "angry young man" of Hollywood, clashing with television executives and sponsors over a wide range of issues including censorship, racism, and war.

[...]

Gaining fame

In 1955, the nationwide Kraft Television Theatre televised a program based on Serling's seventy-second script. To Serling, it was just another script, and he missed the first live broadcast. He and his wife hired a babysitter for the night and told her, "no one would call because we had just moved to town. And the phone just started ringing and didn't stop for years!"^[6] The title of this episode was "Patterns", and it soon changed his life.

Ed Begley, Everett Sloane and Richard Kiley in Patterns (1955)

"Patterns" dramatized the power struggle between a veteran corporate boss running out of ideas and energy and the bright, young executive being groomed to take his place. Instead of firing the loyal employee and risk tarnishing his own reputation, the boss enlists him into a campaign to push aside his competition.^[18] Serling modeled the main^{[clarification needed]} character on his former commander, Colonel Orin Haugen.^[2]^:37

The New York Times critic Jack Gould called the show "one of the high points in the TV medium's evolution" and said, "[f]or sheer power of narrative, forcefulness of characterization and brilliant climax, Mr. Serling's work is a creative triumph."^[18] Robert Lewis Shayon stated in Saturday Review, "in the years I have been watching television I do not recall being so engaged by a drama, nor so stimulated to challenge the haunting conclusions of an hour's entertainment."^[3] The episode was a hit with the audience as well, and a second live show was staged by popular demand one month later.^[19] During the time between the two shows, Kraft executives negotiated with people from Hollywood over the rights to "Patterns". Kraft said they were considering rebroadcasting "Patterns", unless the play or motion picture rights were sold first.^[20]

Immediately following the original broadcast of "Patterns", Serling was inundated with offers of permanent jobs, congratulations, and requests for novels, plays, and television or radio scripts.^[19] He quickly sold many of his earlier, lower-quality works and watched in dismay as they were published. Critics expressed concern that he was not living up to his promise and began to doubt he was able to recreate the quality of writing that "Patterns" had shown.^[3]

Serling then wrote "Requiem for a Heavyweight" for the television series Playhouse 90 in 1956, again gaining praise from critics.^[21]

In the autumn of 1957, the Serling family moved to California. When television was new, shows aired live, but as studios began to tape their shows, the business moved from the East Coast to the West Coast.^[6] The Serlings would live in California for much of his life, but they kept property in Binghamton and Cayuga Lake as retreats for when he needed time alone.^[6]

Corporate censorship

The early years of television often saw sponsors working as editors and censors. Serling was often forced to change his scripts after corporate sponsors read them and found something they felt was too controversial. They were wary of anything they thought might make them look bad to consumers, so references to many contemporary social issues were omitted, as were references to anything that might compete commercially with a sponsor. For instance, the line "Got a match?" was deleted because one of the sponsors of "Requiem for a Heavyweight" was Ronson lighters.^[3]

Serling at home in 1959, with three of his Emmys on the cabinet behind him

The initial story-line of his teleplay Noon on Doomsday (aired April 25, 1956) was set in the southern USA about the lynching of a Jewish pawnbroker. However, when Serling mentioned in a radio interview that it was inspired by the events and racism that led to the murder of Emmett Till, censorship by advertisers and the TV network resulted in significant changes. The program as shown was set in New England and concerned the killing of an unknown foreigner.^[22] He subsequently returned to the Till events when writing A Town Has Turned to Dust for 'Playhouse 90' but had to set it a century in the past and remove any inter-racial dynamics before it would be produced by CBS TV.^[22]

Gould, The New York Times reviewer, added this editorial note at the end of a glowing review for A Town Has Turned to Dust, a show about racism and bigotry in a small Southwestern town: "'Playhouse 90' and Mr. Serling had to fight executive interference ... before getting their play on the air last night. The theater people of Hollywood have reason to be proud of their stand in the viewers' behalf."^[23]

Frustrated by seeing his scripts divested of political statements and ethnic identities (and having a reference to the Chrysler Building removed from a script sponsored by Ford), Serling decided the only way to avoid such artistic interference was to create his own show. In an interview with Mike Wallace, he said, "I don't want to fight anymore. I don't want to have to battle sponsors and agencies. I don't want to have to push for something that I want and have to settle for second best. I don't want to have to compromise all the time, which in essence is what a television writer does if he wants to put on controversial themes."^[3]

Serling submitted "The Time Element" to CBS, intending it to be a pilot for his new weekly show, The Twilight Zone. Instead, CBS used the science fiction script for a new show produced by Desi Arnaz and Lucille Ball, Westinghouse Desilu Playhouse, in 1958. The story concerns a man who has vivid nightmares of the attack on Pearl Harbor. The man goes to a psychiatrist and, after the session, the twist ending (a device which Serling became known for) reveals the "patient" had died at Pearl Harbor, and the psychiatrist was the one actually having the vivid dreams.^[3] The episode received so much positive fan response that CBS agreed to let Serling go ahead with his pilot for The Twilight Zone.^[3]

The Storm

Before The Twilight Zone, Serling created a local television show in Cincinnati on WKRC-TV, The Storm, in the early 1950s. Several of these scripts were rewritten for later use on national network TV.^[24] A copy of an episode is located in the Cincinnati Museum Center Historical Cincinnati Library on videotape.^[25]

The Twilight Zone

Serling working on a script with a dictating machine, 1959

On October 2, 1959, the classic Twilight Zone series, created by Serling, premiered on CBS.^[4]

For this series, Serling fought hard to get and maintain creative control. He hired scriptwriters he respected, such as Richard Matheson and Charles Beaumont. In an interview, Serling said the show's science fiction format would not be controversial^[26] with sponsors, network executives, or the general public and would escape censorship, unlike the earlier script for Playhouse 90.

Serling drew on his own experience for many episodes, frequently about boxing, military life, and airplane pilots. The Twilight Zone incorporated his social views on racial relations, somewhat veiled in the science fiction and fantasy elements of the shows. Occasionally, the point was quite blunt, such as in the episode "I Am the Night—Color Me Black", in which racism and hatred causes a dark cloud to form in the American South and spread across the world. Many Twilight Zone stories reflected his views on gender roles, featuring quick-thinking, resilient women as well as shrewish, nagging wives.

The Twilight Zone aired for five seasons (the first three presented half-hour episodes, the fourth had hour-long episodes, and the fifth returned to the half-hour format). It won many television and drama awards and drew critical acclaim for Serling and his co-workers. Although it had loyal fans, The Twilight Zone had only moderate ratings and was twice canceled and revived. After five years and 156 episodes (92 written by Serling), he grew weary of the series. In 1964, he decided not to oppose its third and final cancellation.

Serling sold the rights to The Twilight Zone to CBS. His wife later claimed he did this partly because he believed that his own production company, Cayuga Productions, would never recoup the production costs of the programs, which frequently went over budget.

The Twilight Zone eventually resurfaced in the form of a 1983 film by Warner Bros. Former Twilight Zone actor Burgess Meredith was cast as the film's narrator, but does not appear on screen. There have been three attempts to revive the television series with mostly new scripts. In 1985, CBS used Charles Aidman (and later Robin Ward) as the narrator. In 2002, UPN featured Forest Whitaker in the role of narrator.^[27] In 2019, CBS made a third attempt at a successful revival, with Jordan Peele taking on producing duties as well as being host and narrator.^[28]

A Carol for Another Christmas

A Carol for Another Christmas was a 1964 American television movie, scripted by Rod Serling as a modernization of Charles Dickens' A Christmas Carol and a plea for global cooperation between nations. It was telecast only once, on December 28, 1964.^[29] The only television movie directed by Joseph L. Mankiewicz, this was the film in which Peter Sellers gave his first performance after a series of near-fatal heart attacks in the wake of his marriage to Britt Ekland. Sellers portrayed a demagogue in an apocalyptic Christmas. Sterling Hayden, who costarred with Sellers in Dr. Strangelove earlier that year, also was featured. The cast included Percy Rodriguez, Eva Marie Saint, Ben Gazzara, Barbara Ann Teer, James Shigeta, and Britt Ekland. Henry Mancini wrote the theme music, which was recorded for his 1966 holiday LP, A Merry Mancini Christmas. The film is not commercially available, but it can be seen at the Paley Center for Media in New York and Los Angeles and the Film and Television Archive at the University of California, Los Angeles.

Turner Classic Movies telecast A Carol for Another Christmas for the first time in 48 years, on December 16 and 22, 2012.^[30] TCM aired it again on December 19 and 20, 2013.

Night Gallery

In 1969, NBC aired a television film pilot for a new series, Night Gallery, written by Serling. Set in a dimly lit museum after hours, the pilot film featured Serling (as on-camera host) playing the curator, who introduced three tales of the macabre, unveiling canvases that would appear in the subsequent story segments. Its brief first season (consisting of only six episodes) was rotated with three other shows airing in the same time slot; this wheel show was entitled Four in One. The series generally focused more on horror and suspense than The Twilight Zone did. On the insistence of the producer Jack Laird, Night Gallery also began including brief comedic "blackout" sketches during its second season, which Serling greatly disdained.^[31] He stated "I thought they [the blackout sketches] distorted the thread of what we were trying to do on Night Gallery. I don't think one can show Edgar Allan Poe and then come back with Flip Wilson for 34 seconds. I just don't think they fit."^[32]

No longer wanting the burden of an executive position, Serling sidestepped an offer to retain creative control of content, a decision he would come to regret.^[31] Although discontented with some of the scripts and creative choices of Jack Laird, Serling continued to submit his work and ultimately wrote over a third of the series' scripts. By season three, however, many of his contributions were being rejected or heavily altered.^{[citation needed]} Night Gallery was cancelled in 1973. NBC later combined episodes of the short-lived paranormal series The Sixth Sense with Night Gallery, in order to increase the number of episodes available in syndication. Serling was reportedly paid $100,000 to film introductions for these repackaged episodes.^[33]^[34]

i was a big fan of 2 of his programs. 'the twilight zone' is a classic and every 1 pretty much agrees on that. i liked the reboot that steven spielberg did but liked the original far better.

'night gallery'? i loved that show even more. and i still watch it on 'comet tv,' by the way. it's not been aped or copied or parodied into the ground and is still fresh.

here's another interview with rod serling.

i've had some friends compare serling to ryan murphy because ryan also does anthology television. i don't agree with the comparison. among other things? serline reflected a better world. murphy continues to want to immerse himself in the depravity of seriel killing and other disgusting things. i'm not talking about fiction, i'm talking about his faux-reality based programming like his upcoming jeffrey dahmer series. i don't need that. i never need that.

maybe when he does something like 'hollywood,' ryan connects with rod serling's better nature but otherwise i'm just not seeing it.

let's close with c.i.'s 'Iraq snapshot:'

Friday, October 9, 2020. Our personal Evita wants to tell us how to vote.

Michelle Obama -- great activist and voice for the people -- wants you to know that you can only vote for Joe Biden. Jimmy Dore explains what a worthless voice Michelle's is.

"Ignorance and hatred keep me from doing my duty as a citizen"?

What duty? What have you ever done?

You've never led a march . . .except a march to the bank.

It's really time we said no to Presidential Welfare. Once upon a time, people didn't dishonor the presidency, turn it into a lotto sweepstakes win. Now that they do? No more healthcare coverage. No more Secret Service detail. Let these whores pay for it themselves.

Jimmy Carter didn't use his former president status to rake in millions or billions. A president like that? Sure, pay for their Secret Service protection.

But I'm damn tired of paying for security at Simon & Schuster book events for Hillary, Bill, Barack or Michelle. They get millions in advances for books that frequently do not sell all that well -- certainly not enough to justify the advances -- and we're then supposed to pick up the bill for security so that they can make millions?

No.

End Presidential Welfare, end it now.

Read Ann's "Ugly Michelle Obama" which is on the mark. Ann is a Green Party member. Her parents are, she was raised to be a Green.

Screw Michelle, that hag should keep her mouth shut. Every time she opens it lately, she lies. Pretending Barack didn't put children into cages at the DNC, for example. She's a hag. She shows no respect for others -- Green Party members are Americans so stop treating them like your lackeys that you can boss around or shame. She's a hag. Barack's hag.

Was she trying to distract from last night's debate? Probably so. Last night The Free and Equal Elections Foundation held their own presidential debate where all candidates were invited. It streamed on FACEBOOK. I don't see it on YOUTUBE but you can stream at the FACEBOOK link. Five candidates participated.

Gloria La Riva (Party for Socialism and Liberation) attended. To the first question, her response included:

My party and my campaign believe that all US troops must be withdrawn from every base around the world. Shut down the more than 800 military bases without any hesitation. Take the troops out of South Korea so that the people of Korea can be reunited again. When a country is occupied by the United States, it cannot be truly free. And that goes for Afghanistan, that goes for Iraq, that goes for part of what used to be Yugoslavia. I have seen the effects of US war and sanctions. I traveled three times to Iraq between 1997 and 2001 to see more than one million people who had died from a total US blockade on Iraq. Why? For the US to take control of the oil. That is strategic geo-political domination of the Middle East. Now they've overthrown Libya and created a hellhole for the people. I believe that the people of the world must be able to decide their own destiny. And part of that foreign policy [I propose] is also stopping all US military aid to Israel. Stop oppressing the Palestinian people. The people in Palestine must have the right to self-determination. And I made a video about Iraq, by the way, it's called GENOCIDE BY SANCTIONS: THE CASE OF IRAQ. It won an award for the exposition

You can find that documentary at the INTERNET ARCHIVE.

And in just that portion of her first response, you find more weight and depth than anything you saw in the Democrat and Republican presidential debates or in this weeks Democrat and Republican vice presidential debate

Let's not be hags for the Democratic Party. We'll start with the Green Party. Howie Hawkins is the presidential candidate. Howie has long called for Medicare For All (Joe Biden and Donald Trump are against it) and a Green New Deal (ditto). Yesterday, Howie called for other items.

On YOUTUBE, you can find about six minutes of the debate currently.

If you read the comments, you will see that the YOUTUBE stream had issues. If they post it to YOUTUBE, we will include it in a snapshot.

Green Party presidential candidate Howie Hawkins also participated. He's long called for a Green New Deal and for Medicare For All. At his TWITTER feed last night, he called for an end to the electoral college and much more including:

Demilitarize the police. Invest in social services. Legalize marijuana. End the war on drugs. We need community control of the police!

We must give back stolen lands and honor indigenous treaty rights. We need to guarantee representation of native people in Washington, and bring about proportional representation to our entire electoral system.

We have violated treaties where our government recognizes defined indigenous lands. The least we can do is honor the treaties and respect sovereignty.

No Space Force. No militarization of space.

We need to dismantle the privatization of space. We need to invest in NASA and work towards global cooperation.

End the surveillance state!

Protect Whistleblowers!

The Commission on Presidential Debates is a private entity controlled by the Dems and GOP. It is NOT a public government agency.

We need Full Public Campaign Financing

Jo Jorgensen is the Libertarian Party's presidential candidate.

Despite residents in all fifty states being able to vote for Jo, she is not allowed into the mainstream debates. How scared are Donald Trump and Joe Biden of Jo Jorgensen? Little, cowardly boys is all they are.

Jo's been campaigning around the country. Below is her speaking at a campaign rally in Philadelphia.

Michelle Obama wants to limit your choice. She wants to make it a two-man race. Of course, she does. She was a sexist pig at the DNC in 2008 -- and we called that crap out (and her decision to wear granny panties that were visible through her dress -- see Ava and my "TV: The endless non-news"). She's now yet again working overtime to erase women. Gloria La Riva is a solid choice and she's a woman. Jo Jorgensen is a solid choice and she's a woman. Angela Walker -- Howie's running mate -- is a solid choice and she's a woman.

Michelle doesn't support women. And she never has. "Our girls" is about the height of activism from Michelle. She works overtime to betray women and to keep the patriarchy going. She doesn't instill pride, she just offers scolding and nagging and bullying.

You have choices. You need to listen to yourself and decide who represents you. If it's Joe Biden, great. If it's Gloria La Riva, great. Whomever it is -- even Donald Trump -- if that's the person who best represents your views and opinions, that's who you need to vote for. And if no one represents you, you have every right to not vote (either just on the presidential or on the whole ballot). That's what a democracy is supposed to be about.

ADDED:

At THE GUARDIAN, Ghaith Abdul-Ahad reports on the militia:

According to Abu Hashem and other commanders, Iranian flights soon started delivering weapons to the newly opened airport in Najaf.

“One of the ministers in the government at that time used to be head of logistics in the [Shia political party and military group] Badr Corps. He sat on the floor in a white dishdasha, picked up phones and arranged for shipments of pickup trucks, munitions and weapons, then distributed them among the different factions.”

With weapons, cars and men came Iranian advisers. They dispersed across the country in a wide geographic arch from Diyala in the east to the western border with Syria. Their voices could be heard on the military radio directing mortar fire in Falluja, installing thermal cameras in a small besieged village in the west of Mosul and accompanying the advance of an Iraqi special forces brigade in Tikrit.

“The reality is, without the Iranians we wouldn’t be able to do anything,” Abu Hashem said. “If the Iranian advisers weren’t there, the battalions wouldn’t attack. Their presence gave the men confidence in the early days.

We last noted the militia's in Monday's snapshot: We were noting how they were attacking the protesters:

This result was completely expected by any of us paying attention in real time. That would leave out the likes of THE NEW YORK TIMES which, in 2019, offered that the "militia's independence" would be "chip[ped] away" by this move. They were wrong. The move to bring the militia forces under the umbrella of the Iraqi forces was first proposed by thug Nouri al-Maliki in his second term. But it would be the laughable Hayder al-Abadi who would actually do it. One of the few to call the militia nonsense out in real time was Ranj Alaaldin (Brookings) who observed:

But such beliefs were met with a new reality on Monday, as were (unrealistic) hopes that al-Abadi could rebuild Iraq and bring the country together: His coalition announced that he will join forces with Iran-aligned militias that spear the Popular Mobilization Forces (PMF), the umbrella Shiite militia organization established in 2014 to fill the vacuum that was left by the collapse of Iraq’s armed forces when ISIS seized Mosul.

Just a day later, the Iran-aligned militias—contesting the elections as the al-Fatih (Conquest) bloc—withdrew from the electoral alliance, not out of principle but because of differences over participation and electoral strategy (there were not enough seats to go around). Indeed, Hadi al-Ameri, the head of the Badr Brigade—Iraq’s most powerful militia, which Iran established in the 1980s and which controls the Interior Ministry—has even hinted they could join forces after the elections to form a government.

Folding the militias into the Iraqi government did not put any controls on the militias. They terrorize the Iraqi people as they did before they were part of the government. They refuse to take orders and they issue threats against the Iraqi government.

At The Atlantic Council (a pro-war body), Andrew Peek makes an argument which includes:

The issue is that Sunni extremists are no longer a determinative geopolitical priority. For the moment, the fire has gone out of the radicals. ISIS is not gone but has gone underground like its sister organizations. Though it can still bite, it is utterly discredited in the heartland of Iraq and Syria. ISIS pulled the Sunni world to the brink and it drew back. Outside of a catastrophic black swan event—a mass release from the al-Hol prison in Syria, a Houthi breakthrough in Yemen, some implosion in Pakistan or Afghanistan—it is not clear what would resurrect the mass political appeal of Sunni extremism.

Adding to this challenge is that the Shia community’s radicals are radical in a very different way than the Sunnis. They form the political bodies from which structured, directed militant groups emerge, but there are virtually no lone wolves. Terror, such as it exists, is carefully controlled for state ends. Lebanese Hezbollah will still conduct bombings in Israel, Syria, and Europe—like the Bulgarian attack for which it was blamed in 2012—and Iran will kill dissidents, but this is structurally a far different phenomenon than the explosion of hydra-headed Sunni radicalism that the US faced at the end of the twentieth century.

The great bureaucratic success of the Trump administration has been to make Iran the US’s top priority in the Middle East, allowing for America’s great big counter-Sunni extremist machine to shift focus to Shia groups. Iranian-backed Shia militant groups have begun to be sanctioned more regularly—even those that had fought against ISIS. President Donald Trump’s targeting of Iranian and Iran-backed targets and his administration’s increased risk tolerance of operating against such actors in battlespaces where they dominate is a signature bureaucratic achievement. Neither the State Department nor the Defense Department readily changed course.

Nevertheless, the public engagement work has not caught up with the new focus on Iran. In other words, the US lacks virtually any engagement with the Shia body politic. We normally do not host Shia religious leaders at official events, Iftar dinners, and the like, particularly not members of the Marjayiya. The Bush administration was actually forward-leaning with this: for example, sending a plane in 2007 to fly a senior Iraqi cleric to Houston for medical treatment. But, other than that (and some very quiet meetings held by myself with one or two others), there has not been much engagement with them, besides the occasional over-the-top communiqué to Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani in Iraq—usually when the walls in Iraq are about to come crumbling down.

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10/08/2020

are you with her podcast? (i'm not)

'the michael brooks show' does not like hillary clinton's podcast.

i'm not surprised.

i'd be surprised if any 1 liked it.

she's not a trend setter. she's usually behind the times on everything - political positions, haircuts, you name it.

it's honestly gotten sad.

why does hillary think she has something to say?

she's written books that had nothing to say and now she wants to say nothing on a podcast?

is this like an elderly-age panic or something?

some way for her to fight her fear of millennials?

you know she hates them and blames them - and not her own failure to try to connect with them - for her 2016 loss.

let's close with c.i.'s 'Iraq snapshot:'

Thursday, November 8, 2020. The Democratic and Republican Party debate . . .

Last night, a limited pretense of a debate took place. It was called the vice presidential debate but it only included two people running for that office. For example, voters in every state can vote for Jo Jorgensen, the Libertarian Party candidate. She's on the ballot in all fifty states. But her running mate Spike Cohen wasn't invited to the debates. Howie Hawkins has ballot access in enough states that, should people vote for him, he could be president. But his running mate on the Green Party ticket, Angela Walker, was not invited to the debate. Sunil Freeman is Gloria La Riva's running mate on the Party for Socialism and Liberation are on the ballot in 15 states. Residents of 15 states can vote for them? Shouldn't they have been on the stage last night.

Count every vote. Your vote matters. Blah-blah-blah bulls**t. If your vote matters then the media needs to cover all the campaigns, then all candidates needs to be on stage. You want to set a qualification? Fine. Figure out how many states you think a candidate should be on the ballot. Make that the only criteria. Polling? Polling reflects media coverage -- it always does. So don't use that nonsense. The criteria should be, my opinion, does the candidate have enough ballot access to win. If they do, my opinion, they should be on the stage.

If someone wants to argue for an even looser criteria, I'll gladly support that. But I think, bare minimum, if you are on the ballot in enough states to win, then you deserve a spot on stage.

Why doesn't that happen? Because the networks allow the Democrats and the Republicans to control the debate, they let them determine who will be on stage and who will be moderating. We need an independent commission -- not a bipartisan one -- to be over the debates. The commission should be the one to determine who is on stage, who is the moderator, etc.

Susan Page (USA TODAY) lied at the start of her moderation of the debate last night. She said the commission was non-partisan. That's a lie.

I like Susan. She was being trashed as a moderator ahead of the debate by a few idiots on the left over some event she attended. Susan is a social person. But Susan is a left-leaning person. I don't say that as an insult. I'm all the way to the left. But I say it because some of the so-called 'resistance' tried to trash her because of a social event. Now they could have said, "I have concerns because she . . ." They didn't. They said that she wouldn't be fair because of that.

Susan leans left. With that factored in, Susan also tries to be fair.

I don't like calling her out for the "non-partisan" nonsense -- flat out wrong -- but I'll call her out when she's wrong (and did so in the past when she'd fill in for Diane Rehm on THE DIANE REHM SHOW).

Let's stop pretending we have free and fair elections in the United States when we won't even be fair about who gets included in the debates. And let's stop calling an event that leaves many voters disenfranchised because they're candidates are not on stage, let's stop calling that a "vice presidential debate" or a "presidential debate." It's a Democrat and Republican debate. That's all it is. It's very limited regardless of who is on stage but when you have a do-nothing, say-nothing candidate like Joe Biden who cannot answer any question -- whether it's about how much money Hunter Biden was paid by a Russian oligarch or whether it's does he agree with his running mate on the issue of court packing (expanding the number of Justices on the Supreme Court beyond nine)? -- it's especially limited.

Howie Hawkins Tweeted the following at the end of September:

Biden says: "The Green New Deal is not my plan"

That's right Joe.

It's my plan.

#debates
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9:28 PM · Sep 29, 2020

Howie Tweeted this last night:

In 2010, I was the 1st candidate in the US to run on a Green New Deal.

Today we have made it mainstream, supported by the US majority. Our plan incorporates an Economic Bill of Rights that the Dems won't touch, & the GOP hates that we can afford it:

Imagine if, in 2012, the American people could have seen, on all the networks (as the debates are carried by PBS, CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, TELEMUNDO and many other stations -- TV and radio -- across the country) could have had a candidate onstage at the 'presidential debate' (the Democrat and Republican debate) discussing the Green New Deal.

Or Medicare For All. We owe the nurses of this country so much. They have led on Medicare For All. They have talked that issue, they have raised that issue. Many other activists have helped popularize it and they deserve credit too but it really is the nurses of America who have led on it and popularized it.

What has the Democratic Party done on it? Nothing.

Despite claiming to be for it -- in a form that got increasing watered down in her campaign for the nomination of the Democratic Party -- Kamala doesn't support it now because Joe is against it. Bernie Sanders supported it.

Why didn't Jane Fonda support Bernie? We've raised the issue, Ava and I, in "Media: The Jane Fonda Horror Show" about her bad 'book' which is so bad that it's actually bad for the environment (regular paper is biodegradable -- glossy pages like her book has -- every page is coated -- not). We noted this:

Or does she just really not care about the issues she claims to be vested in? At one point in the book, she insists that you can enrich your stock portfolio by stepping away from fossil fuel investments. We hope that's true. We remember when Tom Hayden hijacked a good portion of her fortune during the divorce settlement and how he did so by blackmailing her with the threat that he'd go public with what 'activist' Jane Fonda actually had in her stock portfolio.

But is the whole thing just a pretense?

We ask for good reason. Bernie Sanders is the politician who ran on the platform she believes in. And she supported him . . . on March 20, 2020. Up until then, she'd supported a number of others running for the Democratic Party's presidential nomination. We see nothing wrong with her support of Elizabeth Warren and even can look the other way on Kamala Harris since Harris is 'local' (California). But we have a hard time justifying the other candidates she supported -- including Amy Klobuchar. Amy had no climate plan, didn't support Medicare For All and had that troubling past as a prosecutor who wrongly imprisoned people of color -- including children of color.

Despite Bernie standing for everything she claims to believe in, she didn't endorse Bernie until March 20th, when he was the only candidate left in the race who wasn't Joe Biden.

Despite her claims to want to end climate change, her book is filled with the same people who organized the attack on Michael Moore recently. Of the two, we like Jane better (we really do like Jane and take no pleasure in writing this piece). But our dislike for Michael Moore does not mean that we justify the climate lobby attacking him. Between the film Moore produced and the book Jane's promoting? Only one of them will make any real difference -- and it's not going to be Jane's book.

She supported multiple candidates -- including the hideous billionaire Tom Steyer who stood for nothing. He's a fake ass on the issue of climate change, a 'green washer' of great pretense.

There were real issues and, let's be honest, Jane doesn't have a lot of years left. She wrote a fake ass book about the superficial thoughts of celebrities, superficial thoughts briefly expressed at Fire Drill Fridays (which she wanted to be used to educate but backed off when people told her that that sort of thing should be left to a separate teach-in). I don't know when Jane plans to stand up. But to wait until March 20th to stand up and support Bernie Sanders was craven and cowardly.

I don't like Bernie Sanders. I've never liked Bernie. He was a nightmare as the Chair of the Senate's Veterans Affairs Committee. The morning the country learns that the VA has been hiding truths from the American people, covering up the mistreatment of veterans, Bernie opens a Veterans Affairs hearing explaining he doesn't want to talk about that scandal, he's going to focus on holistic healing.

That was b.s. and I guess Bernie more than earned his initials.

Bernie clearly is not a great candidate. A great candidate has self-respect and supports those who have backed his campaign. Bernie just tries to whore them.

But screw Bernie. The individual wasn't important in 2020, the support behind his proposals were. I supported Bernie's campaign in 2020 because it was addressing the real issues -- Medicare For All and the need to seriously address climate change.

I don't care for Bernie but I did respect the enthusiasm voters had for him and I did respect their drive which would hold a President Bernie Sanders accountable.

Jane waited until Bernie was the only candidate standing. I guess that showed some courage. I just know that her supposed beliefs were not reflected in her choices previous to Berne (with the exception of Elizabeth Warren -- Elizabeth would have been a strong president as well).

Bernie was never my first choice. Honestly, Beto or Julian were my first choices. With Beto, that was especially based on his work on and statements about Iraq going back to the many public hearings I attended when he was in the House. (And we covered those here.) The media didn't want Beto. They turned on him. During his campaign in 2019, he would make basic, factual statements about Iraq and, for example, Joe Biden's friend employed by THE WASHINGTON POST as a 'fact checker' would attack him in print as a liar. And when Joe lied (as he does several times a day)? Joe's friend at THE POST would find a way to minimize and excuse it and allow 'facts' to be claims presented by Joe's campaign.

There is so much lying going on. You're hearing, "If Trump wins re-election, they will strip away Obamacare's provision that allows pre-existing conditions to be covered!!!!" If you care about that the answer is Medicare For All. If you care about it. Want to be sure everyone with pre-existing coverage gets covered? Medicare For All.

The debate?

I told someone Kamala would win and I'd bet them on it. Despite being an elected Democrat (or maybe because of it) and despite knowing Kamala Harris, he didn't take my bet.

He should have. Because I was wrong.

The minute the debate (18:56 in the CNBC video below), I knew she was in trouble.

She was lost in many debates during the primary and that was because there were multiple people on stage. When Tulsi Gabbard hit her out of left field, Kamala was clearly surprised and dazed. She shaped a reply (not a good one) in one-on-one interviews after the debate.

But Kamala is a wonder in court. I've seen her before. I've found her rousing in court. Even when I didn't agree with the argument she was making to the court, I found her rousing and inspiring.

We didn't see that last night. We saw weakness. And that's the format. She was seated. Kamala standing and making an argument is a strong presence. A sit down debate, she came off weak.

Her speaking voice was tremulous. And that's fine. I use that, Jane taught me it. Make your statement a public performance, come off nervous to be hear, state what's needed and let your conviction make you come off stronger. It's a wonderful technique. But Kamala never got to the summation part that she would have and frequently did when she was delivering a closing statement in court.

She's hampered in many ways. She has to underplay so as not to show up the top of the ticket. She's a woman and there are 800 million things that she's being told to do from what she wears to how her hair is, and that's before the advisors want to talk to her about arguments to make.

I understand the problems she had to address and I'm sympathetic.

But she should have broken free in the debate. Especially considering Joe's health which could mean he doesn't complete his first term if elected.

Kamala didn't humiliate herself by any means. She delivered an acceptable performance. But she was capable of so much more.

And I gladly would have paid if my friend in Congress had taken the bet with me because I don't believe Kamala won.

Now above, I'm talking about her performance and presentation. I'm not fact checking her and certainly, I'm far to the left of Kamala. But her performance and presentation was good. It should have been great. She has the ability and power to be great.

If you need me to fact check her or respond to her opinions, e-mail and if it's a real concern I'll do so in the next snapshot. I've tried to be very fair to Kamala. I really don't like her. Willie Brown has told me for the last two years that I'm not fair to her. I've worked to be fair to her and to acknowledge her good qualities.

So I'm going to ignore doing any form of fact check with one exception.

This is nonsense and ignorance. "We now know because of great investigative journalism." She said that of Donald Trump's tax returns. This was not investigative journalism. This was check-book journalism and possibly after the election so-called journalistic watchdogs and media critics will call it out. But this was not investigative journalism. Kamala's statement bothered me more than anything else she said because it appears that, despite being a smart, well educated person, she doesn't grasp what investigative journalism is. Investigative journalism is uncovering the VA's wait lists -- the hidden ones that denied access to so many veterans. Investigative journalism is uncovering something unknown to the people. Donald Trump's tax returns exist. There have been efforts in court to get them. This was not investigative journalism -- this was check-book journalism and two friends at THE NEW YORK TIMES have not only told me that, they have repeated how outraged they are that 'the paper of record,' resorted to that.

Joe is for fracking, I've called that out. I'm not voting for him. So the claim that Joe believes in science or this or that by Kamala? Don't believe it. Again, we go through her comments if enough people want to but I'm just not interested. We've covered the nonsense of Russia-gate from the beginning. (And the Iran deal was always a nightmare and, in real time, we noted here that I was being asked to promote it and had refused.)

I'm also not interested in going over Mike Pence whose name I sadly learned last night. I'd made it through the entire term not knowing his name -- "Mike whatever" or "Mike Pompeo -- wait, that's the Secretary of State, whatever his name it." Except for noting his wife's visit to Iraq (and applauding her for that), we've been able to ignore Pence.

He was calm -- as was Kamala. He gave a strong presentation. I'm talking performance, not positions.

I call the debate a tie. A different format, and people letting Kamala be Kamala, would have allowed her to knock it out the park. She has that ability, I've seen her do it in court. But the format did not allow her to shine as she can and I'm sure 800 million "remember you need to . . ." from various handlers also harmed her performance.

At this point in the campaign, Kamala should just be Kamala. In every future speech, just tap into who she is and let it fly. If the Biden campaign wants to win, it's going to be Kamala carrying across the finish line. There is no enthusiasm for Joe. Certainly not among the young. We're speaking via zoom to college groups across the country. I hear repeatedly, "I'm not voting for Trump but I'm not voting." Kamala is the only thing that will bring any enthusiasm to the campaign in these final weeks -- and she can do it.

I do understand -- and have spoken to friends with Joe's campaign -- the concern that Kamala shining will make him look less. Well too bad. He's now had weeks to build up himself and he's failed to do it. To generate enthusiasm now, that's got to come from Kamala and people need to let her be who she really is and she will shine.

Angela Walker is the VP candidate on the Green Party ticket. Below she presents her response to last night's debate.

Wars were not a serious topic. Iraq came up in passing. War was not a serious issue in the debate. I guess when Joe Biden's the candidate -- pro-war Joe, destroyer of Iraq, Joe -- you have to ignore it. Just like you ignore issues of assault and harassment -- when the heads of both tickets are credibly accused.

Who is Anthony Brian Logan? I'm not familiar with him before this morning, sorry. I'm not a YOUTUBE expert by any means. But a conservative sent an e-mail to the public account saying that we don't offer a conservative response here. We don't. This is a site for the left. But I have no problem including Anthony Brian Logan's political commentary -- it's from the right. Inclusion does not mean agreement.

My big thing on this video that he's commenting on would be? Sit down, Michelle. I'd say that about Laura Bush and pretty much every First Lady of my generation except for Rosalyn Carter and Hillary Clinton. They did things as First Lady. Not b.s. nonsense -- grow a garden!, beautify the country (while we drop napalm on Vietnam, Lady Bird?), let's move, let's read, let's try to humanize me and pretend I'm a caring person.

Hillary worked on healthcare as First Lady. Great job? No. But she tackled it. When she ran for the nomination of the Democratic Party in 2008, there were some who derided her, "She was just a First Lady." She wasn't but fine if that's your opinion.

Michelle has done even less. And for her to interject herself is just nonsense. She was not a First Lady who did anything of value. They tried to make her a super model and that didn't work. Then they tried to find 'feminine' topics for her. About the only thing that didn't fall under 'girl biz'? Her efforts to get the Olympics held in Chicago. If you've forgotten, she failed at that (even after enlisting Oprah to help with the effort).

I don't really understand her standing in this debate. A former First Lady who did nothing. Again, First Lady Carter, First Lady Clinton, they were political. Hillary's made some remarks praising Joe (but largely just condemning Donald Trump) and whether I agree or disagree, I don't wonder: Why is she speaking?

Why is Michelle speaking?

Because Joe's not closing the deal. Michelle is a heavy weight in terms of admiration by some Americans. So they're letting her take a hit -- the same way Bully Boy Bush's administration let Colin Powell take a hit by lying to the UN -- in the hopes that maybe this will help pull Joe over the line.

If our voting system today was you voted because somebody called you on the phone and asked you who you wanted to vote for? Joe would win the election.

But polling isn't voting. And I'm telling you right now that a number of young Americans are still not rushing to vote for Joe Biden. They'll say he'd be better than Trump but he's not reached a number of them. Does he have enough support as it is? I don't know. But, again, I'm hearing things like, "I got polled and I said Joe would be my choice. But I probably won't vote."

Spike Cohen is Jo Jorgensen's running mate. I searched YOUTUBE and their campaign site and see no response to the debate so I'm not including them. If he has a response to the debate, we'll certainly note it tomorrow. He did offer one Tweet and we'll note that:

Things that were not mentioned in the #VPDebates2020 • Ending Qualified Immunity • Ending the War on Drugs • Bringing our troops home • The CDC’s failure to allow COVID-19 testing for months Americans are sick and tired of political posturing. We need real solutions now.